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I was very disappointed when this came out that it does not include Lightfoot's most popular (and best songs) Edmund Fitzgerald, Sundown, and others.
Just so you know, Gordon put some restrictions on which of his songs we could teach on this DVD, and "The Edmund Fitzgerald" was one that he asked us not to do. He is very mindful of the families of those who lost their lives on that wreck, and does not want to use the song in ways other than his original recordings of it.
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| please forgive me if I offended anyone for posting what I believe are the chords to the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.... feel free to delete my posting Dave Stott
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| I'm disappointed in this DVD. He takes 5 minutes (it seems like forever) demonstrating standard tuning and he spends zero seconds (zero!) explaining the strum patterns he is using, and they are not explained by the aforementioned slashes in the tab. Without explaining the strum pattern this is purchase is basically just a chord chart with performance DVD attached. You are left to figure out the rest.
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| You can't tell me that Pete's rendition of "if you could read my mind" is simply a chord chart with a performance video attached. Prior to getting the DVD I could play the tune in rudimenatary fashion, but I learned tons of nuances from Pete on the opening and the solo that I had not known. I am a little bit disappointed in the song selection, but overall, I like it. As a Gordon Lightfoot fan, I would have liked to have seen these songs included: Sundown, A Painter Passes Through and several other recent tunes along with one 12 string guitar Gordon Lightfoot tune. Dave
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I havent looked at that song. They are (supposedly) more difficult from beginning to end and that is 2nd to last so if he includes more than a chord chart with slashes for MORE difficult songs (and I'm not putting this on Peter, because for all I know it is Homespun's tabs) that would be very curious indeed. I'm not likely to get that far, until my ear develops enough to decipher strum patterns used earlier in the DVD. That will probably be oh, a couple years. But if it was written down I could do it tomorrow. Fortunately I can fingerpick better than I strum so the fingerpicking songs should be attainable. BUt I'd really like to know the strum pattern on Early Morning Rain, because I could play it if I knew it, or if he demonstrated it just once slowly enough to decipher it. Surely someone here knows...
IMO someone who can figure that kind of stuff by ear, like we are expected to do here, doesnt need a DVD like this at all...All they need is the chords and they are home free
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| Wayne it sounds like you are basing your opinion on the first 1 or 2 songs on the DVD... My suggestion is that you listen to the entire DVD and then go back and give it another try. One of my disappointments with the Gordon Lightfoot DVD is that some of the songs are strumming tunes and not fingerpicking. If you ever watch Gordon on DVD or youtube, he strums those tunes just like Pete does. Dave
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All of the strumming tunes on the DVD are tabbed the same way, with slashes that are not explained. Is a slash a downstrum? An upstrum? A down-up? Either? Both? All 3? He doesn't say one word about it through the first two tunes-are you saying he explains it later? This is pretty essential info, IMO. If we are good enough to figure it out by ear why are we buying a DVD to learn it? We can just watch Gordon on youtube, if as you say he does it the same way (whatever that way is)
If you could read my mind is tabbed exactly as it should be-its fingerpicked, and he shows which strings get picked at which fret.
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| I have to agree with Wayne. I am not a naturally-gifted player, and it's very difficult for me to pick things up by ear. I've been learning from Homespun for 15 years or so, and if it weren't for Homespun, I probably would have given up years ago. However, I have to say that the tab accompanying the video lessons often leaves something to be desired. (It seemed better and more complete back in the days of the audio lessons.) Although I'm sure it builds skill having to figure out more of it on your own, my study time is pretty limited these days, so when I get stuck, I usually don't have the time keep beating my head against the wall until I get it. That's why, after an initial viewing, my Gordon Lightfoot DVD has remained on the pile. Maybe I'll get back to it after I retire and have more time for study. Tim
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| I'll have to go back and look at the tab for this DVD. I have gotten to the point where I rarely look at the booklets, I can figure out how to play most tunes from the instructor. In the case of the Gordon Lightfoot DVD, I have been playing some of his tunes since the late 1970's. So the DVD gave me back all the nuances that I had been missing or overlooked / dropped over the years. Dave
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I hadn't realized the reason why The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald wasn't on the disk because of Mr. Lightfoot's feelings for the families involved. I think the fact is that their best memorial is that song, at least with the greater population who would have not known about the shipwreck or who heard about it in the past and it would have drifted off into the past. Heck, it's been a shame that a great singer/songwriter like Gordon Lightfoot hasn't even been able to get his more recent CD on Amazon.com cause I know I couldn't find it anywhere, or any of the usual places you would be able to find CD's.
I hear the problems that many are having with the some of the details of the way Pete is teaching this and I hope he's reading at least to get the feedback and address some of those issues in his next teaching course. A lot of us get courses above our abilities but that shouldn't be an excuse to accept having everything taught above our heads, give some consideration for the fans and enthusiasts when you're making and teaching the courses. My two cents.
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